The Schanck House

Since last time we did the northeast corner of East Main Street and Culver, why not do the even more historic northwest corner, just across Culver Road. This started out as the very old and rustic farmstead of the Schanck family, a prominent pioneer family whose Brighton home was early gobbled up by Rochester’s eastward expansions, and afterwards sat on the very border of the two conurbations, where East Main Street crossed it.


The Schancks

Born in 1791, Hendrick Von Brunt Schanck came from New Jersey to Brighton in 1830, and built a wooden house at the eastern extent of his property line, corresponding to present-day Culver Road. Schanck’s family was very old Dutch-American stock, having emigrated from the Netherlands some five generations previous during the 17th century. Schanck’s own father, John Schanck, was a veteran of the Revolutionary War.

1877 History of Rochester & Monroe County
https://www.google.com/books/edition/History_of_Monroe_County_New_York/pY06AQAAIAAJ

A wildly successful farmer, Schanck was the first to bring peaches to the area by driving them all the way from Jersey and planting a full orchard of them on his farm.


The Cobblestone House

The cobblestone addition to Schanck’s house was built by a mason named Alonzo Bradley in 1839, out of stones found on the farmland during its clearing. The wooden interior structure was all oak, fastened with hand-carved wooden pegs and hand-forged nails. Alonzo Bradley married Schanck’s daughter Sarah.

1877 History of Rochester & Monroe County
https://www.google.com/books/edition/History_of_Monroe_County_New_York/pY06AQAAIAAJ
1872 Map of Monroe County
Green: Schanck Avenue, now East Main Street.
Red: Home of H. V. B. Schanck.
Blue: Home of Caleb K. Hobbie.

https://catalogplus.libraryweb.org/?section=resource&resourceid=1116119676

Alonzo Bradley was known to have built at least two other known cobblestone structures in Rochester and Irondequoit, one of which is still extant: the house at No. 1090 Culver Road, corner of Grand Avenue:

Google Maps
No. 1090 Culver Road, the last extant cobblestone structure of Alonzo Bradley in Rochester.
The Times-Union
Rochester, New York
Tuesday, November 21, 1961
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-times-union-1090-culver-road/189716819/

This was built at the same time as another structure, the cobblestone schoolhouse that once stood at the confluence of Culver, Bay, and Merchants Roads. Apparently, cobblestone structures were commonly built in pairs, with work on laying courses of cobblestone continuing at the second site while previously-laid courses set at the first site, and vice-versa. In this way, two buildings were able to be efficiently built simultaneously.

1912
The cobblestone schoolhouse, just prior to razing.
https://catalogplus.libraryweb.org/?section=resource&resourceid=1116017990
1911 Plat Map
Red: Schoolhouse No. 2, the cobblestone schoolhouse.
https://catalogplus.libraryweb.org/?section=resource&resourceid=1116720947

The schoolhouse was torn down in 1912, and the land reverted to its original owners, the McGonagal family.


Caleb K. Hobbie, Jr.

One of Hendrick Schanck’s daughters, Gertrude J., married Caleb Knapp Hobbie, Jr., a neighboring farming family, and the cobblestone Schanck house fell to them.

1888 Plat Map
Red: The cobblestone house of Caleb Hobbie.
https://catalogplus.libraryweb.org/?section=resource&resourceid=1116712516

He had the honor of dropping the last brick into place when paving was finally completed along East Main Street east of Goodman Street to Culver Road:

Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York · Saturday, December 03, 1898
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-caleb-hobbie-lays/151650288/

Hobbie died October 5th, 1900; his wife would follow a scant time after, February 25th, 1902.

Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Saturday, October 06, 1900
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-caleb-k-hobbie/189787068/
Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Wednesday, February 26, 1902
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-caleb-k-hobbies/187238928/

Chester D. U. Hobbie

Chester D. U. Hobbie was a son of Caleb and Gertrude Hobbie, and the house would become his for a period of time, along with his wife Josephine Orcutt Hobbie.

Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Sunday, July 10, 1910
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-hvb-schanck/8775266/
The Times-Union
Rochester, New York
Monday, July 11, 1910
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-times-union-schanck-reunion/189769429/
1911 Sanborn Map
Red: No. 489 Culver Road, former Schanck house.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3804rm.g3804rm_g06217191205/?sp=31&r=0.328,0.835,0.596,0.335,0

As of the 1916 directory, Chester and Josephine Hobbie had moved to 32 Quincy Street, a street that had been cut through land that was once part of Schanck farmland, his grandfather’s quiet geographic legacy.


John P. McDonald

The cobblestone house on the corner of Culver would become the home of Captain of Detectives for the Rochester Police Department, John Patrick McDonald.

1903 History of the Rochester Police Department
https://www.libraryweb.org/~digitized/books/History_of_the_Rochester_Police_Department.pdf
1911 Blue Book of the Police Department
https://libraryweb.org/~digitized/books/Blue_Book_Police_Department_Roch_NY.pdf

McDonald’s career with the police department was long, beginning back in 1887. In his early days he had tussled with such notorious criminal characters as “Ance” Godwin and “Little Smithy”, who liked to assault people and engage in extended fisticuffs.

McDonald married Agnes B. Herbert in 1915, and soon afterwards the couple moved into the cobblestone house.

Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Sunday, November 13, 1927
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-captain-john-p-m/173632934/
The Times-Union
Tuesday, March 04, 1924
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-times-union-schanck-house/188606096/
Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Sunday, November 13, 1927
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-captain-john-p-m/173632934/
Findagrave.com
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126575338/john-patrick-mcdonald

McDonald would retire from the police force in 1935:

Democrat & Chronicle
Tuesday, January 01, 1935
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-john-p-mcdonald/187237768/
1935 Plat Map
Red: No. 821 Culver, home of John P. McDonald.
https://catalogplus.libraryweb.org/?section=resource&resourceid=1116706908

McDonald died August 14, 1937.

Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Sunday, August 16, 1936
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-jackie-mcdonald-d/187180122/
The Times-Union
Rochester, New York
Tuesday, August 18, 1936
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-times-union-captain-jacl-is-borne-to/189771207/

Agnes McDonald would live at No. 821 for nearly a decade after her husband’s death, until her own passing on November 18th, 1946, at which point the property would pass to her brother Valentine H. Herbert.

Democrat and Chronicle
Rochester, New York
Friday, December 06, 1946
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-agnes-b-macdonal/189767279/

The End Years

For several years, No. 821 Culver Road stood empty, overseen by a realty group, J. C. Goutremout Corp. The home was a target for arsonists and mischievous children, not that they were necessarily distinct groups.

Democrat & Chronicle
Monday, May 02, 1949
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-821-culver-road-f/187222896/

The below 1950 Sanborn map would unwittingly portray the last year of existence for the historic cobblestone home.

1950 Sanborn Map
Red: No. 821 Culver Road, former Schanck/McDonald House.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3804rm.g3804rm_g06217195005/?sp=31&r=0.427,0.895,0.429,0.241,0

Treat’s Tydol Station

At long last, the time had come for history to give way to modern commercial enterprise. The Main Street corner proved too valuable a commodity in the age of the automobile, where every corner lot was eyed for a service station. 1951 witnessed the cobblestone structure laid low by machine and hammer-wielding man.

Democrat & Chronicle
Sunday, January 07, 1951
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-cobblestone-resid/187191487/
Democrat & Chronicle
Sunday, February 11, 1951
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-the-cobblestone-h/187191663/
Democrat & Chronicle
Sunday, August 05, 1951
https://www.newspapers.com/article/democrat-and-chronicle-tydol-service-sta/188390656/
1951 Aerial of East Main and Culver
Red: Tydol Station.

Porter Eliga Treat would end up purchasing the lot, calling the station “Treat’s Tydol” or “Treat’s ‘Flying A’ Service’”.

Democrat & Chronicle
Wednesday, July 11, 1956
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-times-union-flying-a-station-1670-e/188390168/
1962 East High “Orient” Yearbook
Red: No. 1670 East Main Street, Treat’s Tydol/Flying A.
https://mcnygenealogy.com/book/orient-1962.pdf

And Unto the Present…

An Eckerd drugstore location would be built on the lot, taking out multiple houses to the west of the former gas station. 

2007 Google Maps

The Eckerd would become a Rite Aid for a while.  I didn’t really bother to get exact dates for the drugstores and dollar stores swapping out, because that’s hardly the most interesting part. The house that had drawn my interest was long gone–the gas station that replaced it, also long gone. This ungainly commercial temple in their place still stands, and so my interest wanes rapidly.

2012 Google Maps
2018 Google Maps

But so it goes; once this was the middle of a field, strewn with smooth stones laid by the great glaciers of the Ice Ages. They were gathered together to build a home, and together served a communal purpose. Just as easily they were dispersed, smashed apart by the demolition men. Where are those stones now? Backfill, infill, rubble for some foundation? Gone to ballast.


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2 responses to “The Schanck House”

  1. Your last two posts have been terrific!! Where did you find the 1951 aerial shots of the area?

    1. Thank you so much! I contacted the Department of Rare Books and Special Collections at U of R about something regarding the field where East High is now, and the enterprising librarian pulled those out for me!

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